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EPlayle  
#1 Posted : Saturday, January 6, 2018 9:52:28 AM(UTC)
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Hi!

I was wondering if there was anyway to combine two unique Chemnames so that they would output in the Chemistry Table as one row. Currently I have two chemcodes which I am applying the same standards to and would like them to output as in the Chemistry Tables as one row. Is this possible?

I have already tried making all of the alternative names in the zRef_Chemistry_Lookup page the same.

Thanks!

Evelyn

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, January 9, 2018 2:52:06 PM(UTC)
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Hi Evelyn,

It sounds like you may want to create a "combined compound".  A combined compound is the sum of the results of two or more separate Chem Names.

You can find details on creating Combined Compounds in our online manual here: https://www.ESdat.net/ESdatHelp/index.html?combined_compounds.htm

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Nick

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:36:03 AM(UTC)
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Hi Nick,

I don't want to sum them, I want to assign multiple chemcodes to the same chemname. Is there a way to do that?

But thanks for the combining compound tip! That solves another problem I was having.

Thanks!

Evelyn

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:08:16 PM(UTC)
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Hi Evelyn,

No you can't use the same ChemName for multiple ChemCodes in the same Chemistry Profile.

I'm curious as to what situations you need to do this.  Can you provide an example? 

Are they different analysis methods for the same ChemName?  If this is the case, you wouldn't need multiple ChemCodes, as ESdat can differentiate the results based on the Method Name reported by the lab.  In this situation, ESdat would automatically merge these results into a single row and show a range for the results when exporting using the Desktop interface, or show the maximum concentration when creating a table with the Web interface.

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Nick

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#5 Posted : Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:26:58 AM(UTC)
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Hi Nick!

The issue that we are having is that the labs that we are working with are sending us data where the same compound is sometimes given different chemcodes. One lab will send VPH with the chemcode of VPHC6_C10 and another will send it with the chemcode of VPHs. We are trying to get the labs to change what chemcodes they are using but it is taking a long time, in the meantime I want to be able to minimize the amount of things that we need to change when uploading data to the system.

I thought that a way to get around this was to assign standards to all of the possible chemcodes which the labs are providing us, but the problem that I have run into is that even though the standards are being applied correctly in my chemistry tables I now have multiple entries for the same compound.

Thanks!

Evelyn

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#6 Posted : Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:52:32 AM(UTC)
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Hi Evelyn,

That's extremely helpful. Thank you.

What you're looking for is the Consolidate ChemCodes feature.  This feature is specifically for the situation you have described.  The Consolidate ChemCode feature allows you to consolidate ChemCodes for the same compound into a single ChemCode.

The best way to manage these is by using the Web Interface for Server.  Have a look at the Online Manual here: http://ESdat.net/ESdat_Server_Help/index.html?consolidated_chemcodes.htm

Once you have consolidated all the existing data into your preferred ChemCode, these will export on a single row.  You can also review the list of consolidated ChemCodes to ensure that they have been assigned correctly, and modify them if required.

If you are able to import your Lab Reports via the Web Interface, it will also automatically assign the correct ChemCode when importing the data.  The Lab Deliverables need an additional header file as well as the sample and chemistry csv files to be loaded in this manner.  You can see the specifications for the header format on our website here: http://ESdat.net/Lab_Specifications_eFiles_eLabReport.aspx

I would recommend following up with your labs to see if they can provide the data in this format.

Otherwise, if you are importing the data through ESdat Desktop, you can assign results to a different ChemCode using this method: http://ESdat.net/ESdatHelp/index.html?chemistrypreimportutilities.htm

If you do use this method, I would also recommend periodically repeating the Consolidate ChemCode process to ensure all your data is correctly assigned.

Thanks,

Nick

EPlayle  
#7 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 8:24:20 AM(UTC)
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Hi Nick,

Is there anyway to get the consolidate feature to work through the ESdat Desktop? Since the labs are taking a long time to change things in their outputs it would be nice to have a solution that didn't involve the labs.

Thanks!

Evelyn

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, January 16, 2018 7:21:55 AM(UTC)
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Hi Evelyn,

There is a consolidate feature in Desktop, however it is not as advanced and the version in the Web Interface, so I would recommend consolidating your ChemCodes as described in the previous post. 

Once you've consolidated all the codes and are importing via Desktop, you should then make sure that you select "Require Parent Records" in the import dialogue when adding your lab reports.  This will highlight any ChemCodes that don't have a match in the database, rather than just adding them to the list.  You can then use the "Associate Chem Codes" tool to match the compound to the correct ChemCode that you have selected for your database.

The "Associate ChemCodes" tool is accessed from the lab report import template by clicking the eyedropper button in add-ins. Details on it's use are available in the online manual here:

http://ESdat.net/ESdatHelp/index.html?chemistrypreimportutilities.htm

Thanks,

Nick

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